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Hi everyone, please take a seat.

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We'll soon start the next talk.

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So, the next presentation will be done by Manu Leduc,

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and it's about crystal, flexible, weak UI.

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So, hi everybody.

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So, for this talk, I'm going to start by presenting the organization of the project on the team.

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Then, the world idea of what the project is.

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It's features.

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Given the main points about the project design,

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present the roadmap for the next year,

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or maybe even more.

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And if you have enough time, a life demo.

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With of course, demo effect.

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So, crystal is developed as part of XWKS,

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which is a French company that now probably many of you know,

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because of the panel and everything.

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It's a self-funded company,

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which is mainly known for developing XWKS on Creeppad.

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So, the team is composed of Ludovic Diverse, which is here,

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when some are sold as a CTO,

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myself as a tech lead.

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So, I go UX designer, peer on my developers,

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on the rest of the XWKS team on XWKS community,

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which is a good wiki expert.

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So, useful feedbacks on the project.

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So, what is crystal?

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It's a new project.

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It's beta zero dot 14.

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Today we are building zero dot 15.

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It's a new UI for wiki's based on modern technologies,

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which is compatible with XWKS.

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I will see later with other backends.

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We do one with these every month,

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only implementing the second number so far.

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So, no major version.

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The source I have available on data,

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can find the documentation online on,

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we have a metric channel when you can come and chat if you want.

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So, the origin of the project is that we realize that,

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no edge is not only something you do in wiki's,

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but some things that you also do in other projects,

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for instance, if you do test management,

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you want to have some documentation aside your tasks,

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or if you do document storage,

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you might want to have textual documents that you want to edit,

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directly inside the project,

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on that you might want to link together.

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And so, in this version,

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it's important to collaborate,

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and that we can concepts inside different sources of knowledge,

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and to have a familiar UI elements for that,

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that can be embedded inside different software.

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Possibly to start from small chunks of knowledge inside,

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non-educated software,

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and to move gradually inside full-fetch wiki,

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such as X wiki.

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So, this is some screenshot of the UI as it is today,

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just to give you an idea,

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with the edit model as well.

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So, the key concept of crystal,

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the notion of embedding,

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meaning that crystal is not only a full interface,

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but can also be integrated inside

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other software,

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for instance, it could be embedded as

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an extension dedicated to wiki-wiki content.

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It's also modular,

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meaning that you don't want to always take all the picture at once,

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but you might want to select only the ones

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that are relevant to the predictions,

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which you want to embed crystal.

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It's also adaptable, for instance,

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you don't always have an index in for instance.

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So, search might not be an option in this case,

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so you want to be able to remove all the notion of search of your UI,

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because your backend doesn't support it on

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as part of the embed ability.

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You also want to be able to adapt the UI

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of your wiki to the UI as a prediction side,

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which you are embedding.

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So, that's the integration is seamless,

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and doesn't have to kind of UI mixed together.

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Where we software,

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we have, of course,

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viewing it in pages,

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for xwiki,

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the software next to it as a source of knowledge,

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and also,

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from five to ten new five system,

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specifically for the five system,

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we're able to move on random pages on,

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we're working on,

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making it possible for the other backends.

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Of course,

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navigation between pages,

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the given tree,

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right frame,

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and so specifically for xwiki,

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so far,

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we support authentication,

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pages,

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the history,

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on the notion of view or edit rights.

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We also embed a rich editor,

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which allows currently to edit images,

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to spot links with the completion,

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blogs that you can move up and down,

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the splash action to quickly insert rich content inside,

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your documents,

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so far, everything is saved in my down,

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and,

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optionally,

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you can connect to real-time server,

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people to collaborate in real-time,

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to documents,

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and it's based on,

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on tipped up.

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So,

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additionally,

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some crystal specific features,

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so as I say,

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we support not only xwiki,

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but also other backends,

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such as an extra on the five system,

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we are also working on GitHub.

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Another interesting feature is,

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crystal can be used on the web,

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but also as desktop application,

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using electron,

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which is able to connect to a remote source,

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or directly to your five system,

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with always the same UI,

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which is familiar to the users.

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And we also have a prototype of,

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a flying mode where,

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the page revisit,

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gasped,

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and then once we have offline,

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you are still access to the page you already visited,

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and when you get back on the page,

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refer to,

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in the back end,

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on the new version,

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is asynchronously,

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it's played again,

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when they are available.

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So,

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all of it is developed

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in test-tripped with view.

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This is a broad map of the main concepts,

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which is that we have at the core,

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an extension manager,

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which is loading extensions

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for the mini part of the UI.

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One of them is the,

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absolutely,

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the system,

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we have two,

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the same system,

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so far,

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but it's built to be extensive.

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On,

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relevant extensions,

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can connect to subparties,

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such as real-time server,

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or the backend.

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One important technique,

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aspect,

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is that everything is a component-based,

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we need,

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components are nicely,

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the components,

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which has some interesting properties,

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such as feature,

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discoverability,

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and also extensions

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can come on over other features,

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to specialize part of the application.

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Also,

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not about the design system.

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So, for instance,

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if you want to write a button,

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we define a type,

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meaning the parameters that are,

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a load for the use of a button,

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and this is separated from the ways

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that will be displayed to the user.

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Meaning,

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if you have a success button,

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then you can choose,

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even at one time,

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to choose beautify on this is,

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the text is green with green,

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back end,

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like green,

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but if you switch to shoelace,

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all the styles of the buttons are adapted

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to the specificities of this new design system.

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All of this is a type-safe,

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meaning that,

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as a user of the abstract design system,

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you are,

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I mean, sure that everything is all right,

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because of the type-shaking.

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And as I said,

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it is made to be extensible,

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meaning that if you want to integrate,

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crystal inside,

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say next code,

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which provides a nice,

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design system library,

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by writing a separate extension,

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phonics that you can have,

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crystal integrated in the next one.

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Without the initial developer knowledge,

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when you write a button,

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you don't even know how it is going to be displayed again.

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Also,

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we made sure that every part of the UI

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is only presented to the user,

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if the backend supports the corresponding feature,

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for instance,

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with next load,

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there is another shun of file story,

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whereas in xpq,

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we can provide this information

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on so the story tab is only available,

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when you are connected to the xpq backend.

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Also,

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what's so,

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we are currently working on integrating the

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search feature,

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supporting the offline mode for more backend,

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on the possibility to switch from rich text editing

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to my identity,

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for those that are more familiar with source editing.

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As part of the first MVP roadmap,

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remains user management inside the wiki,

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right management as well,

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the support for most in-textes,

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or the other in-mardom,

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the support for macros,

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for richer content inside pages,

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on the support for commands on pages.

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For more longer-term work,

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we plan to extract the editor,

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we realize that most of the work we put in this editor

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can,

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is more generic than just crystal.

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So, if we expect it,

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we can re-zip first for xpq,

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because xpq is still using xpq editor for,

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which is quite legacy,

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to say the list,

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but it could also benefit other project

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interesting to have a rich editor with actions

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that are rated to wiki,

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such as having the possibility to select images

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from the attachments,

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or the notion of links being internal,

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or external.

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We plan to support data editing,

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meaning the possibility to edit tables,

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what notion does,

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for instance,

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that explains also a rowing to do that.

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The possibility to script inside pages,

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which is also very interesting.

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If we want to someday have crystal

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as a new front end for xpq,

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we need to work on many of the features of that,

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such as extensions,

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skins, spotting for the wiki xpq syntax,

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several side micros,

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like when there is many many other things we want to do.

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We want to do,

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also actual embedding inside a product,

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such as next rod or gem spotting,

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or is also interesting in that.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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You want to have time?

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Yeah, good.

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So,

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here we have the same page.

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The first one is displayed using shurice.

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The second one is displayed in beautify.

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As you can see, there is some slight differences,

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because of the different design system.

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So, the shape of the buttons,

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the bread frame is different,

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I can maybe fit to propose it

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if you have something you wish to see more specificing.

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So, yeah.

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Of course, in the video shown,

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a listing of attachments,

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preview of attachments.

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Okay, now I'm going to turn the same page.

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Demo effect.

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But you can see the cursor.

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I'm not sure why.

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It's not refreshing correctly.

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But the two pages,

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it's to both of us are connected to the same real time server

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in the background.

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I'm supposed to collaborate,

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but they don't want to be here today.

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And additionally,

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we have the,

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this is an electron app.

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So, same UI again.

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This is connected to an online backend.

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Excuse me, back end.

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But I can switch to say,

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a five-system directory.

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Here,

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I can,

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of course, this page really exists.

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Yes.

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So,

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in the world,

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okay.

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And now,

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you can see the new page being stored in your first system.

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So, from the same UI,

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that your family is on the web,

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you can also edit the command offline.

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Maybe in the future,

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being able to migrate.

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Your online,

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your offline not too,

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explicky by,

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maybe just a drag and drop.

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It's a longer-term vision,

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that we have.

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In but not.

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So, far,

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everything is stored in JSON files,

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which is not user-friendly,

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if you want to edit by yourself,

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to make them document.

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So, we are working on more,

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for more specification,

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how to store files in your file system.

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All of this is also deployed online.

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There is a demo instance,

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available with the crystal backend.

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If you want to try with a logged-in user,

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please first create your user on the backend,

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then use the crystal front end,

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because it's not user-friendly for now.

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And you can download,

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add it from a web site as well.

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If you're using Ubuntu,

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we are there's a limitation

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to pass a specific arguments

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when it's starting,

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I'm working at the fixed for the time.

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If you have other operating systems,

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please let us know if it's working correctly on Mac OS

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or on Windows.

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Thanks.

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So.

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Thank you very much, Manuel.

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So, we have about 8 minutes for questions.

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So, any questions here?

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Yeah.

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One.

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No, no, no, no.

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Can you go back on the file for them for the Windows?

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Because it's said that there will be any questions

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on Zoom in the text,

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and the write them in the description.

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Yeah.

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Thanks, man.

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You want to explain to me?

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Oh, yep.

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A bit laggy for some reason.

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It's real partial time.

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Okay.

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So, yeah.

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We said that everything is looking awesome.

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Not, not no more.

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Okay.

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Any question?

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Oh, yeah.

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Hi, thanks.

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So, if I understood correctly,

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you have implemented two engines for that.

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One is view-fi,

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and the other one is shoelace,

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which is true.

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Yes.

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It's to UI backends for the same database.

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And what reason do you have for that?

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Is it just for testing, for evaluating,

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or is it to be able to embed crystal inside

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other applications,

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while having a style for the buttons,

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for every thing that looks exactly the same as the application,

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inside which you want to embed.

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So, that crystal is like

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seamlessly integrated inside the rest of the UI.

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I see.

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And how would you implement such a certain abstraction?

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So, for example, if there was an existing UI framework,

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that has several styles or something,

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I need to write some kind of a connector,

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or how do you need to imagine that?

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Yeah, that's all it works.

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You need to implement the set of UI elements

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that we define.

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There is a dozen,

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for now,

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that or have a specified interface with parameters

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that are designed on specific type objects.

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And then you need to work on how to properly run

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those generic parameters,

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inside some things and match the existing system

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that you want to integrate.

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I see.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Whether.

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Of the design,

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any direction?

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Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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Any other question in the meantime?

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So let's wait for the solution then.

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Two.

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Maybe.

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Okay, that's the list of UI elements

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that you need to define,

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and for instance, for the button,

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there is this list of parameters that you need to

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support in order to be compatible with the abstract API.

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So sorry, quite.

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Okay.

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All those learning work,

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is it a JavaScript SDK or a frame?

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It's a library that we provide

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that you need to install on your own.

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There is a project that is providing all the APIs

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and implementations that you need.

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Hopefully.

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Otherwise, you have to develop more.

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Do you need to do it?

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Do you use something?

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The idea is that it should be a work component.

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Yes.

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That's my question.

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Thank you.

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Any other question?

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Okay.

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Well, then if there are no questions,

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thank you very much.

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Thank you.