WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:10.200 And in the idea of embracing the chaos, I'm sorry there's a lot of words here, I'm going 00:10.200 --> 00:14.800 to keep them up so folks know what to do. 00:14.800 --> 00:22.800 And if there are things that you're unhappy with Jordan and we can fix them, that's fine. 00:22.800 --> 00:30.760 So the high level idea was to use the AI, CRA and DSA as kind of like the three steps 00:30.760 --> 00:37.800 in your opinion regulation, moving from drafting phases to implementation to application. 00:37.800 --> 00:45.160 And so I'll let you talk to what you want to do is the AI instead and maybe what you want 00:45.160 --> 00:48.040 to put the AI like there or what's the best place? 00:48.040 --> 00:49.920 Yeah, okay perfect. 00:49.920 --> 00:54.520 So do you want to talk to that now and you can ignore this so I can fix it as we speak. 00:54.520 --> 00:56.520 Yeah, sorry about that Toby. 00:56.520 --> 01:02.080 Yeah, for the AI, what I think we'll talk about is like how we can deal with open-washing 01:02.080 --> 01:05.640 because it's becoming a really big problem in Brussels and of course it starts with AI and 01:05.640 --> 01:07.840 it can end up covering more and more software. 01:07.840 --> 01:12.280 So we'd like to have chat if that's okay and I think from the audience questions it would 01:12.280 --> 01:14.240 be good to talk about that as well. 01:14.240 --> 01:16.840 So that's what we're doing this corner if that's okay. 01:16.840 --> 01:27.440 So maybe CRA on one end to the SME do you see our ideas today, I was just, what put 01:27.440 --> 01:39.240 like someone there, all right, okay, so let's see in chaos. 01:39.240 --> 01:53.080 So was the DSA, so I hadn't proposal for the DSA was to generate a bunch of really crazy 01:53.080 --> 01:59.480 ideas of how software could be used in the application phase of software much like what 01:59.480 --> 02:00.320 you're doing. 02:00.320 --> 02:05.080 So if that's something you want to do, you can go ahead with this if you want to do demos 02:05.080 --> 02:06.080 that works too. 02:06.080 --> 02:20.360 So there'll be a mix of that going on and I'll go there with Philippe to work on the CRA and 02:20.360 --> 02:27.560 here is to use a reverse brainstorm and so we're going to try to answer the question 02:27.560 --> 02:33.280 like how do we make sure that the implementation of the CRA is a disaster, right? 02:33.360 --> 02:39.640 The idea of this exercise, it sounds like it's to then reverse, like essentially you 02:39.640 --> 02:47.480 state like how you can do this and then you pass it on to someone else in a second phase 02:47.480 --> 02:50.360 to try to turn that into a solution, right? 02:50.360 --> 02:55.760 So an example would be make sure, you know, if you really want to make it fail and make 02:55.760 --> 02:59.080 sure that like open source can no longer be using Europe, right? 02:59.080 --> 03:04.240 So that would be kind of like the how you would do it and so as a second step we'll try 03:04.240 --> 03:08.640 to, you know, that's going to be well make sure it still can be using Europe. 03:08.640 --> 03:09.640 All right. 03:09.640 --> 03:16.360 So I have a bunch of pens and papers and things for folks who want to use post-its and 03:16.360 --> 03:24.520 so again, AI here, did I say and using open source for application here and we'll go 03:24.520 --> 03:41.120 to do the CRA down in the back, and I'll just leave that up, I didn't know, I didn't know 03:41.120 --> 03:48.400 either, I didn't know either, I didn't know either, I didn't know either, I didn't know 03:48.400 --> 03:57.480 either, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 03:57.480 --> 04:22.960 yeah. 04:22.960 --> 04:25.960 We can't use any of them, I'll just do it. 04:25.960 --> 04:26.960 Yeah. 04:26.960 --> 04:27.960 All right, everyone. 04:27.960 --> 04:29.960 We have to stay in the watch of you. 04:29.960 --> 04:30.960 Oh, there you are. 04:30.960 --> 04:31.960 Come on. 04:31.960 --> 04:32.960 So let's go. 04:32.960 --> 04:34.960 And let's go up there, Mr. 04:34.960 --> 04:36.960 And away, away from here. 04:36.960 --> 04:37.960 What? 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21:35.380 --> 22:03.380 OK, could everyone try and take their seats relatively quickly? 22:04.380 --> 22:11.380 We're getting there, we're getting that. 22:11.380 --> 22:15.380 Sure. 22:15.380 --> 22:20.380 You know what I'm going to do? 22:20.380 --> 22:21.380 Microphone. 22:21.380 --> 22:22.380 OK. 22:22.380 --> 22:23.380 Do it. 22:23.380 --> 22:26.380 All right. 22:27.380 --> 22:30.380 OK, everybody good? 22:30.380 --> 22:34.380 OK, we're going to go ahead because we are already behind schedule. 22:34.380 --> 22:39.380 So we're going to start with the DSA team, I think. 22:39.380 --> 22:43.380 And they're going to present their findings answers to the question. 22:43.380 --> 22:53.380 Lots of crazy ideas on how the open source community and can help foster you compliance. 22:54.380 --> 22:55.380 Sorry. 22:55.380 --> 23:05.380 Yeah, it's as you will see, it's like more than open source, it's like open approach ideas. 23:05.380 --> 23:10.380 So we have many ideas on the user interaction with the platform. 23:10.380 --> 23:20.380 So we have a lot of ideas on how users should interact with the platform. 23:20.380 --> 23:27.380 Like methods or API, the platform should expose that for the user, for example, to 23:27.380 --> 23:35.380 export the data to another platform, so a sort of federation for a personal data. 23:35.380 --> 23:41.380 And then there is also the idea to have platforms to automatically expose the 23:41.380 --> 23:47.380 APIs or endpoints to do GDPR like data donation. 23:47.380 --> 23:55.380 So for the user to donate its data to either the investigated team or CSO running a test 23:55.380 --> 23:59.380 or a study, et cetera. 23:59.380 --> 24:06.380 Then there was also something about how can platform check their compliance. 24:06.380 --> 24:14.380 So like a sort of sell service checkbox to check if the platform is compliant or not with 24:14.380 --> 24:15.380 the information. 24:15.380 --> 24:23.380 There was also an idea about if you are big enough or bigger than a threshold. 24:23.380 --> 24:30.380 Then all of your patents and models, et cetera, are public domain, which is very good 24:30.380 --> 24:35.380 wishlist, but let's see. 24:35.380 --> 24:42.380 And then coming back to the user content, the idea to allow or to enforce a 24:42.380 --> 24:48.380 bring your model, especially for a recommender system, which is already done in some 24:48.380 --> 24:52.380 like open, like social media. 24:52.380 --> 25:02.380 And then one really interesting one is also to apply this API terms of service. 25:03.380 --> 25:09.380 So to standardize the way terms of service are written, to have them to be like 25:09.380 --> 25:15.380 programmatically inspectable and to expose like in an open, in the creative 25:15.380 --> 25:22.380 common way, the features of the license with an introducing also a SPAT 25:22.380 --> 25:27.380 SPDX identifier for the license. 25:27.380 --> 25:34.380 And then last one will be to have a unified repository for the advertisement libraries that 25:34.380 --> 25:39.380 are scattered through the platforms now and they use different schemas, different names 25:39.380 --> 25:42.380 for the features et cetera. 25:42.380 --> 25:47.380 So these are the, yeah, the ideas. 25:47.380 --> 25:48.380 That sounds pretty great. 25:48.380 --> 25:51.380 There have been some amazing ideas. 25:51.380 --> 25:53.380 And maybe we'll see some of them implemented in the coming years. 25:53.380 --> 25:54.380 Who knows? 25:54.380 --> 25:57.380 A hundred of an hour to tie B to do the CRI wrap up. 25:57.380 --> 25:59.380 Thank you very much. 25:59.380 --> 26:04.380 So we were trying to answer the question, how I mean, how what, how might we make sure 26:04.380 --> 26:07.380 that the implementation of the CRI is a disaster? 26:07.380 --> 26:09.380 And frankly, you have delivered. 26:09.380 --> 26:13.380 So congratulations to all of you. 26:13.380 --> 26:18.380 Yeah, so we'll figure out a way to put them online, right? 26:19.380 --> 26:22.380 For example, I see here remove old incentives to be a Stuart. 26:22.380 --> 26:26.380 That's a pretty good one. 26:26.380 --> 26:29.380 Ignore all open source producing SMEs. 26:29.380 --> 26:30.380 Okay, that's another good one. 26:30.380 --> 26:32.380 Right, so there are lots of those. 26:32.380 --> 26:35.380 And then they're really interesting solutions to each of one of those, right? 26:35.380 --> 26:39.380 So we'll figure out how to share it with the working group and make it a public, 26:39.380 --> 26:41.380 publicly available resource. 26:41.380 --> 26:43.380 And I'm sure there's some really good ideas in there. 26:43.380 --> 26:44.380 But yeah, thank you very much. 26:44.380 --> 26:45.380 This was fun. 26:46.380 --> 26:47.380 Thank you. 26:51.380 --> 26:54.380 So on AI, we went a bit all over the place. 26:54.380 --> 26:58.380 But the discussion was really, really interesting. 26:58.380 --> 27:01.380 You can see from the chaotic whiteboard. 27:01.380 --> 27:05.380 We started talking about what makes open open. 27:05.380 --> 27:08.380 And had the discussion around reproducibility. 27:08.380 --> 27:12.380 And the challenges opposed with reproducibility for AI, 27:13.380 --> 27:18.380 essentially borderline impossible is the challenge. 27:18.380 --> 27:22.380 But then we've done to discover, discuss other things like the importance of ethics. 27:22.380 --> 27:26.380 You know, should there be ethical considerations in AI? 27:26.380 --> 27:29.380 And we kind of concluded as well that, well, with proprietary out, 27:29.380 --> 27:31.380 you'll never know if it's ethical or not. 27:31.380 --> 27:35.380 We've open AI, you actually have an opportunity or an chance to find out. 27:35.380 --> 27:41.380 We also talked about the importance of building AI that's reason to 27:41.380 --> 27:45.380 learn non-discriminatory and how we could go around achieving that. 27:45.380 --> 27:49.380 Finally, we talked about building stuff at the end of the day. 27:49.380 --> 27:54.380 And emphasize the importance of all of the open source code that we have around AI already. 27:54.380 --> 27:59.380 All of the open source libraries that we've got around it are a great starting point. 27:59.380 --> 28:04.380 And that we're essentially bootstrapping a community, 28:04.380 --> 28:08.380 because people who've never done AI before are coming in using the existing open source stuff 28:08.380 --> 28:12.380 and building on top of that, which is really, really cool. 28:12.380 --> 28:16.380 Yeah, so I think that's about it. 28:16.380 --> 28:23.380 And I think that brings our workshops to a close and we'll be moving on to the next block.